Sunday, March 7, 2010

Intense Debate comment system removed!

Dear all readers, I’m sure you should have noticed that I had installed a new commenting system called Intense Debate about 2 weeks ago. After some research, I finally decided to give a try to Intense Debate as this will give a more interactive way of communicating with my readers.

Lets see what are the features offered by Intense Debate.

  1. Improved commenting system. One of the features that attracted me was the threading where one can reply directly to a specific comment with nested replies. Blogmaster will receive alerts for replies and new comments. Another distinctive feature is the blogmaster can reply or moderate the comments via email (I didn’t try that). Users can also put smiley emoticons and check their spelling before posting.

  2. Improved administration tools and powers. The blogmaster can choose the Auto-filter comments by keyword, email and IP addresses. At the same time, the blogmaster can do blacklisting by Auto-delete comments by keyword, email and IP addresses or ban users from posting. Akismet system will help prevent spamming. These tools is important as the blogmaster can easy identify the IP of the spammer and blacklist them.

  3. Improved social commenting. Intense Debate allows users to post comments using services like Facebook, Twitter and OpenID. They can also sign up for an IntenseDebate profile or simply comment as a Guest.

  4. Improved sharing tools. With the sharing buttons, one can share the post to Facebook, Delicious, Yahoo Buzz, Myspace, Windows Live Favourite, Twitter, Digg, Google bookmarks, Reddit, Stumbleupon and Bebo.

  5. Improved visiting system to readers’ own blog. This is very helpful to me who will visit the blog of those who leave comments in my blog. With Intense Debate, one can just click to their name and it will go directly to the readers’ homepage. However, with the blogspot commenting system, those blogspot users will usually log into their Google profile before commenting. This make re-visiting difficult as when the links of the readers are clicked, it will redirect to their blogger profile before one can see the listing of their blog. Most of the time, blogspot owner do not hide their inactive blog making difficulty in choosing the correct active blog of the readers to be visited.

Great and attractive features right? I installed the Intense Debate but was facing difficulty with it. Initially, I can’t find the comment link on the front page. Through Google search, it directed me to sort of forum but the solutions were unclear. Through the main homepage of Intense Debate, it seem that the Q & A column was not comprehensive and detail enough to provide such solutions. All they ask to do is to uninstall and reinstall which I had tried many times but unsuccessful.

Apparently, this Intense Debate works better with Wordpress blog. The blogmaster can import all the Wordpress comments to Intense Debate but it can’t be the same with the Blogspot comments.

Besides that, the Intense Debate will hide the existing comments when I choose the option ‘display comments in posts without comments’ of which the comment links do not appear on front page. If I choose ‘display comments in all posts’, the new comment system will hide all the previous comments making all the previous post with zero comments. If I choose ‘display comments in closed comments’, the correct usual system will appear without masking the previous comments system. However, it took me a great time to discover that as there isn’t any answer in the Q & A column. The changes in the settings may not be immediate effect but will take another great length of time before the new changes take into effects. That delay really make me frustrated!

Apart from that, the Intense Debate comment system loads too slow in my blog. There are some problems with IE users as they cannot view this comment system unless they enable their Javascript which is usually off in the default settings. Even with Firefox, the loading time may be differ from time to time which will discourage commenting by readers. This is the major drawback that I felt that I shall revert back to the previous Blogspot comment system.

The major blow which I only managed to see these few days was my number of posts in my front page which is set at 6 has been reduced to 3. I am not sure whether there is any relationship with the Intense Debate system but surely it happens after I installed it. When I clicked previous entries, the number of posts shown was 6 but the new entries with this Intense Debate comment shows only 3. WHY? There might be probable that I had used too many bandwidth that Blogspot reduces the number of posts but the possibility is very low as my blog is not a famous blog with few loyal readers.

With all these major drawbacks and limitations of Intense Debate comment system, I will revert back to the original Blogspot comment system. I am now backing up the previous comments for the new posts with Intense Debate comments. So, for those out there, I am not sure whether you face similar problem. My advices are:

  1. If your blog already loads very slow, do not try this system.
  2. If you are emphasizes on SEO, Intense Debate is using Javascript system which will be of disadvantages in term of SEO.
  3. Perhaps, best with Wordpress.com
That’s all for now~

101 comments:

kenwooi said...

i prefer the traditional wordpress commenting system.. plugins will only make the blog load slower.. =)

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IHSAN KHAIRIR said...

tried disqus yet? i dont have any troubles with it so far...

Ms. Ileane said...

Hi, I'm using Intense Debate on Blogger and I don't have any of the problems that you mention. I'm sorry to hear that you are having these issues and I really wish that I could give you a hand. I have some posts on my blog about using the ID commenting system, but they don't address the issues that you are having.

Hang in there.

Bilal said...

please let me know how that works?
thanks

Nic Da Nic said...

i never like intense debate
because of so many things need to be filled. And it process of verifying the comment is slow.

KwOnG FeI said...

@kenwooi: a fact that I now experience and know..

@ihsan: erm while comparing the features, ID system seem better. I'm not sure about the functionality of discuq but guess I wont be trying it for this moment.

@Ms. Ileane: Thanks for the offer..but I think of the major problem, slowing of the loading time can't really be solved as for now.

@Bilal: About ID system? Just install it like a widget plugin and it will start work. There might be problems initially to configure well with your domain of which some may facing it and some may not.

@Nic: so many things to be filled? Actually, it's the same. Name, address and email. Only the email is compulsory. The only problem is the loading time for the comment box to appear may take some time but that also vary depends on your blog speed.

Scho said...

I am still wondering about this intense commenting thing.

Mr Silent said...

it ok... :-)

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Anonymous said...

Hmm that's amazing but actually i have a hard time figuring it... wonder how others think about this..

KwOnG FeI said...

UPDATE..
after removing ID comment system, the number of posts in the front page has changed from 2 to 6 (the one in the setting)..
i really do not know how this ID system affect the number of posts in my blog..
leave you guys with the thoughts

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tutttutt said...

hello there :)

i have problems to uninstall intensedebate. i used the modified code they gave me fot that purpose but after i did as instructed, there were error messages informing how my code is not well formed, something like that.

i have searched for what is it that is not well formed. theres not even a trace of intense debate in my code!

did u have the same problem?
may i know how exactly did you remove it? was there any side effect? please reply to me ASAP.

i miss pop up blogger comment form :(

thank you in advance!

tutttutt said...

my email keretapitutttutt@gmail.com.
or you can just reply to me at blog thanks!

Pariuri sportive said...

I like intensdebate as well as Disqus commenting system.

Maui Wedding Videographer said...

I have never used intense debate but I am familiar with disqus.

KwOnG FeI said...

@ tutttutt: Have your problem resolved now? sorry for late reply..

after visiting ur blog, it seem it had been resolved..

well, to remove the intense debate it is very simple.

the keyword is 'how you install is how you remove'.

i noticed you use blogpsot.

1. if u install ID in widget, simply remove that widget in ur layout page.

2. if u install ID in html settings, you must click the the nexpand widget template and start searching for the code. For fast searching, you may use the find (ctrl + F) button

hope it helps~


@data recovery: i love it too but it seem not so compatible with blogspot. in addition, it is a javascript that might reduce the number of pages in ur blog

@Pariuri: love it too but as my blog loaded wit mnay pictures, it is just not compatible

@Maui wedding: i would say disqus is a bit simpler and function wise simple also..

in ID, there are more features and making your commenter to comment more.

tutttutt said...

yea it had been resolved. thanks for your attention though!

that was what my problem was. first i installed it using the template method, but when i did as told nothing happened. then i search in the html code for anything, yet nothing was there concerning ID.

then i reinstalled it using widget, hoping i could just delete it later. and i deleted it. . . yet its still there.

problematic.

but now its back to normal :)
tq!

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